Ty Perry, Director of Field Ministries at Friends of Israel Gospel Ministries, for a candid conversation about Christian Zionism, Christian nationalism, and the increasingly volatile politics around both. Ty explains his unapologetic Christian Zionism and clarifies what dispensationalists actually believe about Israel, prophecy, and the Second Coming—pushing back on the common claim that they just see Jews as instruments of apocalypse. From there, they unpack the fallout after Charlie Kirk’s murder: the mix of compassionate, orthodox Christian voices (like Erica Kirk) and more extreme, “dank” Christian nationalist voices (like Tucker Carlson and groyper-aligned figures) that surfaced at his memorial. Ty and David explore the rise of the “woke right,” the influence of Nick Fuentes and his followers, and the danger of nihilistic, racialized pseudo-Christianity masquerading as faith. They close by asking whether a coalition of moderates and classical-liberal minded conservatives and liberals can still rebuild trust in American institutions and preserve a civic culture that keeps Jews—and minorities more broadly—safe, even as many Jews feel increasingly squeezed between radical extremes on left and right. About the Guest Ty Perry serves as Director of Field Ministries for The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, where he leads strategic planning, organizational growth, and outreach efforts within North American ministries. He is deeply committed to building meaningful bridges with the Jewish community - through relationship-building, volunteer service, and educational programs—and to communicating the love of the Messiah in that context. Ty holds a B.A. in Journalism from University of Nevada, Las Vegas and regularly teaches in churches, colleges, and via online platforms.
00:00 – Welcome & who is Ty Perry?
01:02 – A Christian Zionist in a shifting Christian world
03:36 – What is Christian nationalism, really?
05:22 – Dispensationalism explained (and misunderstood)
09:20 – Competing stories: Christian Zionism vs Christian nationalism
12:03 – Law, society, and the limits of imposed Christianity
14:51 – Rethinking Charlie Kirk
18:53 – Listening in on the Charlie Kirk memorial
24:19 – Tucker Carlson, weaponized Christianity, and antisemitism
26:06 – Groypers, Nick Fuentes, and the ‘Hitler Youth’ analogy
32:56 – The ‘woke right’ and cancel culture on the right
35:38 – Liberal values and classical liberalism under strain
38:28 – Can we rebuild a shared American ‘unum’?
43:13 – Jewish anxiety and a potential American dystopia
45:56 – Is there still a philosemitic America? Ty’s view from the churches
47:55 – Mobilizing the quiet majority & closing thoughts